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point of view of Franco Morganti newsletter circulated by the "free society" and by his friend Valerio reported on the conviction that the struggle political act, in Italy, would take place "within the liberal framework." Consequently, if the comparison is between "lower or higher doses to command or liberalization," given that "liberalism has won his historic battle against the doctrine antithetical, that was communism," "For what purpose stand is characterized as liberal ? That is because "spending energy in organizing a political party? What to give Morgan
discomfort especially liberals who are in the PD because it would prevent the confluence of the PD in the PSE, it is clear. That such a belief can be called "conservative" is equally trivial. The Conservative ha fastidio del nuovo, preferisce le strade tradizionali. Non confluire nel PSE è un’avventura per il PD.
Il conservatorismo di Morganti lo rende cieco. Lo scontro politico in Italia, oggi, si svolgerebbe “nell’ambito liberale”? Ma non si accorge della confusione dei poteri (legislativo, esecutivo, giudiziario e mediatico) che è la cornice in cui si svolge l’attuale lotta politica? Ma la “dottrina” liberale – parlerei più della teoria politica che della “dottrina”: il liberalismo non può essere sullo stesso livello della “mistica fascista, nazista o comunista” – non prevede la divisione del potere?
L’Italia ha bisogno della liberal culture, but culture is politics if he wants to take root in the costume and make the "frame liberal" if they play the political struggle. Today is the frame that is missing, and missing for the prevalence of the clerical culture, conservative, socialist and the absence of liberal culture. Hence the necessity of a political subject "of" liberal opponent of the clerical opponents of the conservatives and distinct from the Socialists.
Culture and politics can not be separated, hence the need to refer to the "theory" of liberal politics, rather than a vague "doctrines," materializes in practice for the defense of freedom (singular) of the individual attacked by clericalism, by conservatism and what is left of socialism.
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But a liberal subject is, and how. The Italian political liberalism lacks

the position of Free Society, hosted and commented in the previous article, so answers Raffaello Morelli, the Federation of Liberal . At the core of this position, that is the urgent necessity of a liberal subject as such, that even in Italy to propose and make things liberal, even while the government adheres to this blog.
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IN ITALIAN POLITICS ALL ARE FREE, NOT ALL LIBERALS ARE
" Free Society seems to believe authorized by your name to line up against the liberals in politics. Express themselves openly, is valuable because it raises a bit of political debate, but the argument only shows the desperation for a drawing fallito.La thesis is the opening of the fortnightly Free Society, written by one of its main leaders, a former Socialist Craxi and never pre Craxi, the top companies in their area is not private, devoted to a life a little snobbishly impolitic never renounce it under the table, which has always moved in the waters of the center left and claimed first and then the indistinct olive the dissolution of the opposition, but to promote a product, the fusion PD, although it was apparent starting in the fate non-genetic root.
The occasion is the desperate cry, coinciding with the start of the conference phase of PD, PD-liberal criticism of the Democratic Party in Brussels at the entrance of the new socialist group, ASDE, reasoned criticism from having understood that this input, despite the contrite caution when conveying the Italian press, means the accession of the Democratic Party to the Socialist trend, partly because those who had come off the daisy by the Liberals, dall'ALDE (reduced to this transfer of the merger heralded as the PD new route). The fortnightly
Free Society blames the liberal-PD by this reasoning. They are as liberal and the liberals have won and now may be the most useful come posizione culturale, si occupino di cultura e smettano di avere altre pretese.
Questo ragionamento già non regge quanto all'assunto di partenza ( i liberal-PD non sono liberali in politica poiché non hanno effettivi comportamenti da liberali, il che è dirimente, siccome il modo di comportarsi è il cuore del liberalismo politico).
Ma da un errore di giudizio, il ragionamento si trasforma in un fondamentale errore di concetto quando nega ai liberali ogni ruolo nell'azione politica ( per farlo giunge a dichiarare che vi sono superstiti liberali nel Popolo della Libertà quando da lunghi anni è chiaro e comprovato che l'affermazione "liberali nel centro destra" è un ossimoro politico: un liberale non può stare in the center right and who is right in the center is not liberal).
leave aside here the feeling (not quite vague) that the fortnightly Free Society implies that politics is power and that the culture they are to be filled, an underlying elite shared only by conservatives and advocates of a democratic struggle. It 'just assuming that culture is important for living together, the cry of the fortnightly free society, the Liberals only deal with culture, reveals something very disturbing and unacceptable to the Italian outlook.
speaking in philosophical terms, if the culture is important for living together but do not deal with politics, the fortnightly free society is in ritardo di qualcosa più di un secolo. Ai primi del novecento venne definitivamente chiarito, superando l'idealismo, che il razionale non è necessariamente il reale e che sono necessarie una serie di altre azioni perché possa diventarlo. Già allora balzò fuori che la cultura ha un senso pratico solo se ha un progetto per trasformare il reale, in altre parole se fa politica.
Allora o i liberali fanno politica come tali (ovviamente non in senso integralistico, foss'altro per interna coerenza metodologica) oppure chi si dice liberale e non lo è (perché appartiene ad un altro filone culturale) non può riuscire a fare una politica liberale, quanto meno in modi efficaci e in tempi minimali. Al massimo può studiare i testi Liberals, to learn, but if it belongs to the liberal culture and its critical sense will always be something else, ready for action inconsistent behavior if not overtly different from lliberalismo.
And since the democratic political conflict and civil trials, the exclusion from the political culture not necessarily the comparison of one party (liberal), his ways of interpreting reality and his plans to transform it (based in fact, for Liberals, on the recognition of the crucial value of democratic conflict). So impoverishes politics and promoted by the government policy. The position of the fortnightly
Free Society does not seem to understand that here is the historical cause hole of liberalism in Italy. The gradual marginalization of political liberalism in the last century, the time of the Royal House committed against Giolitti for entry into the First World War. And not experiencing the issue, the fortnightly would even extend the life by a matter of fact (due to the marginalization antirisorgimentale revenge, ideological prejudices of Marxist origin, taken from the mystical fascist and ogle some theoretical strands with, the lack of professionalism of journalism dedicated to the scoop of the event and the prophet rather than a careful information about reality and its relations) as a matter of principle (contained in the culture and the Liberals out of politics) despite the fact that today the experimental data show that the marginalization of the liberal world has been negative in the evolution of things in Italy in terms of time and institutional environment.
It is not enough. To better support his absurd claims of the liberals out of politics, The Free Society fortnightly try to reinvent the concept of liberalism. This equates anticommunism, trying to exploit the apparent failure of the City. The fortnightly Free Society should be aware that the nature of the liberals is not derived at all from being anti-Communist, but rather is the very nature of liberals that the door to be "even" anti-communist. Communism is finished politically, but not for this is over liberalism, which has ideas and plans for today and tomorrow hard fought by other opponents alive. Under the ideal profile and history, liberalism precedes by at least a century of communism from the beginning and the doctrine antithetical to liberalism and conservatism, that will (unchanged at different times) to change over time the relations of coexistence and power. Marxism is a totalitarian and modernized form of conservatism, where the real master is the conformist state, the goal is utopian (the classless society outside of historical time), the stagnation and misery are the resulting stable reality. All conservatives want closed societies directed by great employees, while the liberal change constantly strives to open the interplay of the individual companies.
Wholesale (thinking to the method of operation and not the model) we can say that at this time liberalism permeates the legal and institutional structures of democratic countries. We must not forget that this is not only the product of the unrelenting liberal pressure in previous eras, but especially that it is impossible to argue that the current legal and institutional settings should remain as they are and that there is nothing to be changed to make the living conditions of the interrelations and open individual and able to address today's challenges of very concrete unfreedom.
The indispensability of political liberals, therefore, remains unchanged even in Italy. The Liberals have a specific characteristic of being the only ones to incorporate in their own way to be two essential skills that are connected to build the institutions: to the center of all policy freedom of each citizen and operational proposals and institutions adapt to the passage of time (and thus the liberals are always works in progress).
The other two do not have these features. The first not because they pursue different objectives, such as statism, class, authority, corporations, religious faith, friendships.
The second because the others have the sole purpose of presenting the models fissi spacciati per risolutivi e non di costruire delle istituzioni aggiustabili nel tempo in modo da rendere effettiva la libertà del cittadino commisurata alle condizioni di tempo e di luogo.
Il non volere i liberali in politica (poiché loro dovrebbero esercitare un'altra funzione) corrisponde all'impostazione di gruppi compìti nelle forme che però in sostanza vedono la politica come occasione per conservare i propri privilegi sociali e non si preoccupano di rispettare i rapporti con le esigenze della convivenza libera (che viceversa i liberali fisiologicamente si sforzano di promuovere). Gruppi che piuttosto che prendere atto del mondo quale è, lo rifiutano e pretendono che la realtà debba essere solo quella che dovrebbe essere jn base their onset (according to them) moral superiority. Theirs is a departure from the elitist pluralist conflict with democratic principles. They take with the Liberals because, being in Italy weakest attack is intended to make tasty, and hegemony, hoping to strengthen it.
And the best part is that these groups are all the more fierce against the Liberals as the Liberals are not fundamentalists, as they do not confuse pluralism with the proportional system and claim as their physiological function innovators while also supporting their positions with regard to traditionally been more attentive to the world social issues, without being enough for the individual issues, and the need to Italy in friendly opposition to form deep in the rule of law. Not wanting
liberals in politics, these groups believe they give more strength to the left more appealing because it is less demanding and more fashionable and otherwise make it even less credible in the public precisely because they feel like something without substance prone vices in the old Leninist absorption of the other for power. These groups say they want to oppose, but in fact, squeezing the Liberals are the best allies of the culture that success to Berlusconi.
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final two notations. A comparison of all the off-target between the role of liberal society e i rapporti tra fisica e matematica. Non vi è alcuna attinenza. La matematica presuppone la realtà, da essa astrae alla ricerca di nessi e poi sviluppa in via di autonomia logica scovando pure relazioni o interpretazioni che non necessariamente rientrano nella realtà. La fisica tenta di cogliere la natura dei fatti e il funzionamento delle cose formulando ipotesi interpretative da sperimentare. Così utilizza la matematica non solo come sistema di calcolo ma talvolta come spunto per valutare l'applicabilità di nuove indicazioni non solo sperimentali e di insospettate relazioni supposte in ambito matematico. In ogni caso fisica e matematica puntano ad ampliare la conoscenza umana del reale, ma non hanno l'obiettivo di trasformare i rapporti di convivenza tra humans and to establish new criteria for the use of human knowledge for the purpose of individual freedom. Goal is instead the fundamental goal of every liberal policy. Also in physics and mathematics, like that in science, discussion and debate are crucial. I am also in the case of politics but, unlike the political discussion and debate here is not never transcend the logical connections or test results (and by their consistency with the assumptions of interpretation) and based only on those marks for avoiding the choice the mechanics of majority voting also necessarily includes emotional impulses and beliefs, and above all strive not to influence the policy with the majority's commitment to continuous ricerca. Per la scienza ( analogamente che per i liberali) sono inconcepibili criteri egemonici di chiunque. E per simmetria anche l'esclusione di chiunque. Nei decenni, questa metodologia operativa di tale meccanismo è sempre più universalmente condivisa. Nessuno pone quindi il problema di delimitare settori di intervento invalicabili tra fisica e matematica o di reciproca rappresentanza.
Infine fa sorridere qualsiasi liberale l'idea stessa di voler sostenere che il liberalismo ha vinto e che tutti ormai sono liberali. E' una tesi assurda che vorrebbe eliminare il tempo e far finire la storia, mentre è tipico dei liberali ripensare di continuo le condizioni sociali e le istituzioni che regolano la convivenza tra diversi. La presunzione dell'omogeneo is a reliable indicator of unfreedom. Overall, therefore, that the fortnightly free society is a baseless comparison.
The second note is about the random quote at the bottom of the pane of a sentence of a book by Dahrendorf ("people need something more rights and money to live a full and satisfying life. They need to meter give meaning to their life orientation help for their journey "). Submitted taken out of context lends itself to a dangerous misunderstanding. Of course the identity of each depends not only on rights and money. Are just the liberal to say, always fighting against the idea of \u200b\u200bidentity only. That does not mean for Dahrendorf and liberals, it is wrong to engage in the bottom of the rules to promote respect for human rights or to give rules about the circulation of money in coexistence. Policy issues central to a liberal, in Dahrendorf was occupied until the end. Give rules for this purpose is essential because it touches on crucial aspects of individual relationships and being together. Without them we do not build anything for the state of coexistence. But this can never be confused with the exclusion of other interests or activities of another kind in other areas (just think of the vast field of religion).
because the state Liberal non-invasive, comprehensive and prescriptive. Certainly, however, per la stessa ragione, Dahrendorf e i liberali hanno sempre contestato la pretesa opposta, quella di non occuparsi di dar regole ai diritti e al denaro nel segno di valori fuori dallo spazio e dal tempo, che dicono di essere più umani e invece agevolano l'autorità dei più forti (si pensi alla lungimiranza dell'impostazione cavourriana). Allora, se alla citazione si da una lettura avulsa dal contesto, sarebbe possibile anche questa seconda interpretazione politicamente illiberale.
Insomma, è comprensibile che il quindicinale di Società Libera usi le sue notevoli risorse per cercare di propagandare le sue convinzioni. Che sono appunto quelle di una società libera, e dunque di sicuro una società democratica, ma non per questo a liberal society. The liberal society is something much more complex and more evolved precisely because, in every historical situation, it continues to encourage the highest and largest expression differences and individual freedom. And so it is innate and not foreign policy.
In the past decades, proponents of the sun of liberalism rejected because the ideology of which boiled related infrastructure bourgeois class, and now run to theorize that liberalism, as he won, it has become useless in politics. The goal remains the usual. Prevent liberalism in politics to fulfill its charge of active participation, which disturbs the manipulator of the moment and his words Order it used to exercise critical thinking and dissolve (really, not to talk) the concentration of power in order to be with the push to open society. According to this frame, the fortnightly free society will strengthen the liberal idea, but limited and eroding. Looks forward to a free society but not a liberal society.
RAFFAELLO MORELLI

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From the "liberal" liberal subject to the new PD. "But if all are liberal, you do not need"

Italy is still, despite the crisis, the sixth or seventh largest economy in the West. But even if it was the tenth or twentieth, so it is now included in the Western Hemisphere based on liberalism as to render futile any discussion of "rebirth" and "reorganization party "of a liberal subject. short, if all or most are liberal, if the differences are only on the degree of liberalism to achieve, that will never be a liberal New Topic?
If you ask a quick note too sharp not to be provocative appeared on the site Free Society, a think tank founded by academic and cultural entrepreneurs who spread the values \u200b\u200bof a free society without the constraints of party. In this sense, dedication to the website close the page "about us" is an eloquent words of Ralf Dahrendorf, "The liberal society is not the prerogative of any political party. It 's a goal of wider significance, and more global. It 's more important reflect on what a liberal society requires more than building a new liberalism. "quote that seems carefully chosen among a thousand, almost as an alibi.
course, but it is obvious to imagine that the English-German thinker to think advanced societies in which he lived, daughters of the Reformation and already fully liberals for generations, not the Western countries on the border , like Italy, that the prevailing tendency toward over the last 90 years of fascist and communist clerics could not strengthen that liberalism elites Risorgimento had managed to achieve. So much so that, despite being bound by an international consortium, still struggles to introduce liberal reforms, the lack of a subject authoritative and credible take on full responsibility. The Free Society
by numerous men of culture from different experiences, from left to right, from the PD PDL. The following article mentions a friend Morelli socialist past, rather than liberal, author of the editorial and then tangled reasons internal to the PD. We do not know or we are interested in these facts. We limit ourselves to note that a naive liberal the Governing Council of Free Society, which was part of the just disappeared Ralf Dahrendorf and which still belongs to Giovanni Sartori, is chaired by Salvatore Carrubba. The Scientific Committee among others Augusto Barbera, Luigi Partner, Dario Antiseri, Raimondo Cubeddu, Giulio Giorello Ostellino Piero, Angelo Panebianco.
If anything, the question that comes naturally is: how do these big names on the conduct of policy Free Society? But at least they read the editorials, like this brisk and trenchant of Morgan? And if so, how can approve? I no chance hypothesis, nor do I conspiracy. But the view suggested by Morelli in response (see) is disturbing. It would be in place, inside and outside the PD, an attempt at normalization between real and fake liberals, with obvious prevalence of the latter? In this case, Certainly, the creation of a large, right, liberal subject, as the third power of critical reasoning, could seriously disturb the operation whether it is the Right of the Left. But maybe it's just a nightmare. Even on this point because little or nothing has come to light in the debate outside. Even Radical Radio, apart from the duty to support Ignazio Marino, it does not mention.
Otherwise, we would not know what to think of so many beautiful and minds of the Directors and the Scientific Committee of Free Society, which disperses at every 'driven by liberalism, and we are sure, sincerely love him, even the claim, but then curiously not want a party that happen. Indeed the exclusive in words nella stessa presentazione del Gruppo.
Immaginate una assise di intellettuali socialisti o conservatori, repubblicani o cattolici, riunita per riaffermare i propri valori con forza, che commettesse l’errore di escludere pubblicamente fin dall’inizio qualsiasi possibilità di dare vita ad un soggetto politico pratico che agisca nell’agone mondano. Impossibile a immaginarsi. Una tattica che farebbe inorridire perfino la più mite signora anziana giocatrice di poker.
E allora è il solito paradosso liberale? Solo i liberali italiani, gli unici, veri illuminati, credono che le idee liberali possano discendere da sole per grazia del Logos sulle teste dei politici, ed ispirarli?
Suvvia, il mondo delle favole dovrebbe be away for these older intellectuals. They may have forgotten the examples of history, namely, that ideas do not march alone, without political support to represent the social life every day? E 'for such errors that the Italian liberalism, one in the West, is sickly, loser, constantly forced on the defensive, more pronounced, which performed at random.
short, the new paradox of Zeno (Zeno, proto, Zanone not ...) is that "If everyone is liberal, no one is." Corollary: "Indeed, no one should be or seem." To resume
abused Benda, if "trahison des clercs" is, well, look at some think tanks and committees scientific "liberals", decreased the number of Italian lay clerics guilty trahison is solid as always well fed and representative.
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But let the word about the editorial Free Society, signed by Franco Morganti, spread by the Newsletter Fortnight 135, July 1, 2009, and also available on the site http://www.societalibera.org/it/ :
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POSITION WANTED
"Sure enough - he writes Free Society - after the European elections, there is the problem of the location of the Italians in the democratic European parliament. The latest compromise would be to to see that flow into the PSE in order to change its name to ASDE. This does not satisfy the Liberal PD, ie the liberal Democratic Party and even other liberals loose, as we read the email we receive. But we have not even met the survivors of the PDL liberals, forced to meet in PPE.Crediamo that the problem lies upstream, as was said once, and that the claim of the Liberals to form or be recognized as such in a political party , at least in Italy.
Liberalism has won his historic battle against the doctrine antithetical, it was communism and permeates the legal and institutional framework of all the democratic countries. To what end stand out and be characterized as liberal, when the clash, in the liberal framework, is one lower or higher doses to command or liberalization? It 's like the mathematicians, because their discipline has largely conquered the world, demanding political representation in the math.
What do liberal culture, of which there is always a great need, rather than spending their energies in organizing party! "
Franco Morganti